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Hi all,
This morning word was out that American Avocets were moving north along the
Milwaukee Lakefront. These beautiful birds had made very brief stops, just
for moments at Grant Park, South Shore Yacht Club, Pebble Beach and finally
taking a rest and doing some feeding at Bradford Beach. It was very cold,
37 degrees, windy and cloudy too. I heard 37 birds were present and they
all hung out in one area. The gulls were constantly in their faces so for
the most part they were a tight group.

Use the link below if you care to view the images of the American Avocets:

https://www.windowtowildlife.com/american-avocets-at-bradford-beach-in-milwaukee-county-wisconsin-on-april-24-2024/

Thanks and good birding!

Jim Edlhuber
Town of Genesee Waukesha Co
windowtowildlife.com


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Currently on Bradford Beach. They have been in the area since this morning.
Just cross posting for those of you who are not using Discord App. Good
luck!

Jeremy Meyer
Franklin, Milwaukee
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Hi All,
Tim Hahn recently summarized the role of members of the WI eBird review team well. I am also one of the county reviewers and would like to share a few additional comments on the process.

Please understand that the reviewers are NOT the ones flagging eBird reports for follow up. This is done automatically by the eBird system based on the filters for the date and location for the checklist that you are submitting. Also, we obviously cannot know the level of expertise for everyone making checklist submissions to eBird. Therefore, we are expected to judge on the basis of the details provided by the observer whether we know them or not. We are not supposed to treat observations with favor towards those observers who may be more well-known and respected in the birding community.

There are TWO general cases where an observation will be flagged and be forwarded to the assigned county reviewer. I have summarized each case below along with the expectations of you from the reviewer.

General case number one. When you open a checklist for a given date and location, a list of species will automatically seed your options. These species are expected for that date and location. If one of these species is flagged for review it will be because the count filter for that species has been exceeded. What we need as additional checklist comments is your confirmation that the number of individuals reported is correct (was not a fat-fingering error), and if it is a large number, a description of how you did the counting or estimating for the number reported.

General case number two is when a species you observed is NOT on the automatic list options and you have to add it manually. This means the species you reported is NOT expected for that location and/or date. In this case the reviewer is looking for enough detail to convince of the proper ID. This means a description of the plumage, behavior, vocalizations that you observed to clinch the proper ID. Reasons you ruled out similar more common species are also beneficial. Comments that the bird was seen well or was sitting in a tree may be valid, but those type of comments are not useful for the reviewer in making a decision to accept or not.

I hope that helps explain what reviewers are looking for when your observations are flagged for review.

Wishes for great spring birding to all of you!
Dar Tiede
Appleton (co-reviewer for Outagamie and Winnebago County)

________________________________
From: [email removed] [email removed] on behalf of Tim Hahn [email removed]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 2:54 PM
To: rb08122000 [email removed] Nick Anich [email removed] tom prestby [email removed]
Cc: WISBIRDN [email removed]
Subject: [wisb] Re: Would someone from the WSO Records Committee contact me

Hi All,
I have responded to John today. Please disregard this request for my
contact info.

Just so we are all aware, the people who serve as eBird Reviewers are all
volunteers. We are all local, experienced birders who take on the roll as a
service to eBird and birders in general. No one is paid, and we all give up
our free time to make sure the data going into eBird is sound and can be
relied on for use in science and conservation.

If you are waiting for a submission to be reviewed or an email response
from a reviewer, please be patient. We don't always get to them right away,
and getting an immediate email response isn't likely to happen given that
we fit this into our already busy schedules. Also, spring migration comes
with a large increase in volume of reports and thus an increase in reports
to review. Our eBird reviewers are willing to discuss bird ID and answer
any questions you have so feel free to reach out to your local reviewer if
you have any questions.

Cheers!

Tim Hahn
Pewaukee, WI
Waukesha Cty
Benjamin F. Goss Bird Club





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Here is the photo as a link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kQIxxmNwk2aEQXXNJ21eOnNMYYlNxYS_/view?usparing

On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 11:57 AM Joe Riederer [email removed]
wrote:

> Can someone tell me if this is a greater yellowlegs?
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
> --
> Joe Riederer
> Town of Grant, Portage County
>
>
>
> Web Site: Big Bluestem Press <https://www.bigbluestempress.net/home>
>
> Photo Gallery: https://joeriederer.pictorem.com
>
> Instagram: @joe_riederer <https://www.instagram.com/joe_riederer/?hl>
>


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Can someone tell me if this is a greater yellowlegs?
Thanks,
Joe
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Town of Grant, Portage County



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Hi all,
Sparrow ID Quiz ~ test yourself on these beautiful birds that can be found
sometime during the year here in Wisconsin! With the other bird ID Quizzes
going over well, and many requests for a Sparrow ID quiz, I have put one
together. All images were taken by me and photographed here in Wisconsin.
Answers are below the last photo at the bottom of the page. There is a
chance you may see some color variation in sparrows considering sex, age or
time of year. There are books, FB groups, phone apps, classes to learn
more. There are also presentations to help in learning bird ID, look for
details at your local nature center.

To take the Sparrow Quiz use the link below and have fun too:

https://www.windowtowildlife.com/sparrow-id-quiz-test-your-yourself-on-these-beautiful-birds-here-in-wisconsin/

Thanks and good birding!

Jim Edlhuber
Town of Genesee Waukesha Co
windowtowildlife.com


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Greetings all,
There is a Lesser (?)Yellowleg on the rocks at North Point, Sheboygan. Has
been here for a while. Could be Greater :)
Great birding all,
Jim Hess
Sheboygan, WI
Sheboygan County

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Hi All,
I have responded to John today. Please disregard this request for my
contact info.

Just so we are all aware, the people who serve as eBird Reviewers are all
volunteers. We are all local, experienced birders who take on the roll as a
service to eBird and birders in general. No one is paid, and we all give up
our free time to make sure the data going into eBird is sound and can be
relied on for use in science and conservation.

If you are waiting for a submission to be reviewed or an email response
from a reviewer, please be patient. We don't always get to them right away,
and getting an immediate email response isn't likely to happen given that
we fit this into our already busy schedules. Also, spring migration comes
with a large increase in volume of reports and thus an increase in reports
to review. Our eBird reviewers are willing to discuss bird ID and answer
any questions you have so feel free to reach out to your local reviewer if
you have any questions.

Cheers!

Tim Hahn
Pewaukee, WI
Waukesha Cty
Benjamin F. Goss Bird Club

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024, 14:31 johnschmitt521 @ yahoo . com <
[email removed] wrote:

> I have been having trouble with a recent submission to eBird. I recently
> noted an Ovenbird while birding and described it as thus:
>
> A warbler with dark spots that merge into streaks that run all the way
> down the flanks, olive green back and mantle, thick white eye ring, walking
> on ground with 'herky, jerky' style. Ironically seen well with one of the
> numerous Hermit Thrushes that were present.
>
> The message I received back from a reviewer named Tim Hahn stated thus:
>
> Ovenbirds would not show green anywhere on the body. The back would be a
> brown thrush-like color.
>
> I am rather confused as all 5 sources available to me (plus 40 years of
> birdwatching) describe Ovenbirds with green or olive upperparts.
>
> Nat Geo states "olive above"
>
> Sibley page 469 states "olive above, .... greenish back"
>
> Peterson warbler guide page 84 plate 21 states in italics "olive
> upperparts" and further "typical fresh birds (fall to early spring) olive
> green above"
>
> Warblers of the Americas by Curson, Quinn, Beadle states page 54 plate 17
> states "Adult ... rest of head and upperparts dark olive-green" and
> "Juvenile.... head olive-buff... upperparts olive-buff"
>
> Cornell's own eBird website states " olive-brown above"
>
> I also noted how the bird was walking on the ground which is a common mark
> given in most field guides and even mentioned how I literally saw the bird
> in the same field of view with a Hermit Thrush so I really don't understand
> your statement.
>
> Ovenbirds absolutely do show green on their bodies, olive is a shade of
> green, like "army green" or an earthy green. From a superficial plumage
> aspect they may mimic thrushes but all you need to do is simply use the
> eBird website to look at the dozens of photos to see the olive-green cast
> to their upperparts. This is plain to see.
>
>
> The problem, and it's one I've had with this reviewer Tim Hahn once
> previously, and an experience multiple people in this county have also had
> with this reviewer, is a complete lack of courtesy in returning emails and
> answering basic questions. There is no dialogue. If there is a disagreement
> we should discuss it but some feel differently.
>
> I seriously don't know why such a description would be turned down. The
> two sentences used to deny the valid record are factually incorrect. All
> major field guides point this out including the eBird website with
> literally dozens of photos that show such a greenish/olive cast.
>
> What is the protocol and do I have another resource of action? This is not
> the first incident for myself or others with Tim Hahn as a reviewer and
> valid ornithological records are not being put into the database for
> strange reasons.
>
> Thank You in advance,
>
> John Schmitt
> Washington county
>
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Hello fellow Birders!
I am looking for a female roommate for the WSO Convention May 17th in Two Rivers. It would be for 2 nights at the Lighthouse Inn.
The convention is always fun with lots of birding! Please let me know ASAP if you are interested.
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Unacceptable topics include hunting, feral cats, photography, chain letters, pet/caged/domestic birds, falconry, commercial advertising and political views.

 

No Attachments:

 

Absolutely NO ATTACHMENTS! Do not attach ANY text or photo files. There are no exceptions to this rule. If you care to share photos, place your photo files on a web site (of your own making or a free photo hosting site) and provide a link to the web site in the body of your email.

 

Plain Text, Please:
 
Using HTML, or Microsoft Rich Text Format to format your email message so that it has fancy fonts, colors, etc. must be avoided. Some mail servers cannot handle messages in these formats. Your message may appear as utter gibberish to some readers rendering it useless. Set your email program to send all messages to the list in PLAIN TEXT and non-MIME format. For more background on configuring your email program refer to:

 

http://www.expita.com/nomime.html

 

No Commercial Advertising:

 

Commercial messages are absolutely prohibited. A commercial message is one in which a business, individual, or service is advertising with the intent of soliciting customers. If you are in doubt as to whether or not your post will be considered commercial, contact the list owners, privately, back-channel, before posting your message to the list. Be fully aware that the list owners do not adhere to the old adage: it is easier to beg forgiveness than permission.

 

Members Only, But...

 

Occasionally you may find the need to forward an informative email on behalf of a non-subscriber. In this instance the list member doing the forwarding must provide a brief reason about why the forward is necessary, along with identifying the origin of the post.

 

Copyright:

 

The usual cautions and limitations presented by the laws of libel and slander apply. Pay attention to copyright laws. Do not distribute other people's words or works without permission. This includes news articles posted on news wires, e-magazines, and other web sites.

 

Instead of posting the entire content of an article, supply a link to the article in your email. Do not forward links to any online articles using a web site 'E-mail to a friend' form and then send it to the WISBIRDN list address.

 

How does WISBIRDN work?
 
WISBIRDN functions like regular e-mail. Messages posted to WISBIRDN via your email program are simultaneously received by all members. Subscribers may also communicate with individual list members 'back channel' one-on-one by using individual e-mail addresses.

 

Save yourself some embarrassment - get into the habit of regularly checking the TO: line of your outgoing email to ensure posts are in fact going to the intended address.

 

To send a message to the Wisbirdn list use this address: (email posts using your email program)

 

wisbirdn@freelists.org

 

You MUST send using the same email account address you submitted when you subscribed to WISBIRDN.

 

Be sure to correctly identify the topic of your post in the SUBJECT LINE and to sign your post as per list rules.

 

SUBSCRIBING AND UNSUBSCRIBING

 

In an effort to keep spammers and mischief-makers off of WISBIRDN, all subscription requests are handled manually via the list administrator.

 

To SUBSCRIBE:

 

Go to //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn and type in the email address you wish to have subscribed (this will be the email address you will be using to post to WISBIRDN through your email program). Select 'Subscriber' from the pull-down menu (it is the default choice) and then hit the 'Go!' button. Approval usually will occur within 24 hours if not sooner, however, if the list owner is on vacation it may take days so please be patient. Once your request has been approved you will receive a confirmation email and a welcome email containing WISBIRDN guidelines and rules (just like the one you are presently reading).

 

To UNSUBCRIBE:

 

Go to //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn and type in the email address you wish to have unsubscribed (it should be the exact same email address you used to join WISBIRDN) Then select 'Unsubscribe' from the pull-down menu (are you sure? pause and reflect for a moment) and hit the 'Go!' button. You will receive an automated email reply signifying that your subscription has ended. If you do not receive an automated response or are otherwise unable to manually unsubscribe, contact the administrator at wisbirdn-admin@wsobirds.org

 

Additional Guidelines and Tips:

 

A copy of these guidelines and a WISBIRDN FAQ may be found at:

 

https://wsobirds.org/wisbirdn

 

A searchable archive of messages posted to WISBIRDN is located at:

 

http://www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn

 

All new members of WISBIRDN are encouraged to make an initial introductory post. Explain whom you are, where you live, where you bird, and anything else you consider pertinent.

 

If you are unfamiliar with birding discussion groups or how lists function in general, it is strongly encouraged, as a new member, to 'lurk' and 'listen' for a few days before posting.

 

Please share your bird sightings. Assume that everyone else wants to know what it is you are seeing, particularly unusual sightings. Be sure to include species, location information, and date of your observation.

 

SUBJECT LINE attention-getting prefaces to help clearly state your topic:

 

Unusual sightings or RBAs (Rare Bird Alerts) are typically prefaced with the word 'ALERT:' followed by the species of bird and county location (all in caps). For example:

 

ALERT: VARIED THRUSH, OUTAGAMIE COUNTY

 

Requests for information are usually prefaced with 'RFI:' For example:

 

RFI: Birding Horicon Information

 

An off-topic subject typically not related to birds but information nevertheless that might be of interest to the rest of the list (provided it does not extend into a lengthy off-topic discussion) use 'OFF-TOPIC:' For example:

 

OFF-TOPIC: Unusual butterfly identification

 

WISBIRDN is comprised of birders of all levels. Novice birders need encouragement and thoughtful consideration so that they may learn from their mistakes. Expert birders will be wise to remember that they were once novices and that they do not know everything.

 

You certainly need not limit your contributions to only reports of unusual bird finds. Success of this list will depend on constant and varied conversations about birds and birding in general.

 

Be prepared to share directions to interesting bird sightings. BUT PLEASE: If the bird you mention is being seen on private property, DO NOT share directions until after you have permission from the landowner to do so! Sharing sightings of rare or endangered species: please use discretion in giving precise directions to a bird location (specially a nesting site) if unwarranted human intrusion is a concern.

 

This list functions within the guidelines found in the WSO Code of Ethics found at:

 

https://wsobirds.org/about-wso/code-of-ethics

 

Consider sharing reports of bird trips you take, in Wisconsin and elsewhere. Much of the traffic on the list will consist of questions and comments about Wisconsin birds and birding, places to bird, places to stay, places to eat, birding books, bird ID's, birding equipment, etc. Please be as helpful as you can. The list is about sharing information!

 

Remember: The nature or topic (or 'thread') of your post should be made clear in the SUBJECT LINE of your post. Subsequent posts that deal with the same topic, need to remain clear in the SUBJECT LINE of your email. If a topic changes the SUBJECT LINE must reflect that change. Otherwise it becomes difficult for subscribers to know where one thread begins and another leaves off.

 

NEED HELP?
 
The WSO is the list owner and the admin will field technical and non-technical questions, suggestions, notions, and ideas, about WISBIRDN. Please be mindful that the list is run on a volunteer basis so if an answer is not immediately forthcoming (we do not have operators standing by 24/7) please be patient.

 

Thank you for reading these guidelines (which you have already safely copied and saved, right?). Welcome and good birding!

 

Sunil Gopalan - WSO Admin/List Owner webadmin@wsobirds.org Middleton, WI (Dane County)

 

Go to: https://www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn

 

In the “Enter email” field, type in the email address you wish to subscribe (this email address will be used to receive and send Wisbirdn email). ”Subscribe” is already the default option. Click on the “I’m not a robot” checkbox then click on the “Go!” button.

 

You will receive an email confirmation that your request was sent to a WISBIRDN List Administrator who will manually approve your subscription. Approval usually occurs within 24 hours, often less. Please do not send multiple requests! This will only clog the Administrator’s inbox. One will suffice. If the administrator happens to be away (possibly birding?) please be patient. Once approved, you will receive an automated email with a Welcome Message containing WISBIRDN guidelines and rules which you are strongly urged to read. A copy of the welcome email can be accessed by clicking the Welcome button at the top of this page.

 

NOTE: Every member who posts to WISBIRDN is REQUIRED to sign each and every post with a signature block containing first and last name. Pseudonyms or false names are not permitted. Wisconsin residents must also include their city and county of residence; out of state subscribers need only include their state of residence.